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Ship Now,
Cry Later

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ep 001 — Roots before Branches

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troublemakers

Ana Bernardo
Product & Design Leader

Ana Bernardo

Ana is a product and design leader who has spent over 10 years navigating complexity, building teams, and asking uncomfortable questions. She believes the hardest design challenges are rarely about the craft. They are about everything around it. That's why she started this podcast.

Egle
Strategic Leader & Coach

Eglė Beliūnaitė

Egle works at the intersection of strategy, leadership, and people. She helps organisations and individuals build the foundations they need before they branch out — and she has an uncomfortable habit of seeing exactly what everyone else in the room is struggling to articulate.

About the show

Design, leadership &
the stuff nobody tells you.

Ship Now, Cry Later is the podcast for designers and design leaders navigating the messy, exciting, sometimes chaotic reality of building great products. We talk about the hard calls, the unexpected growth moments, and the lessons that only come from doing the actual work. Roots before branches — always.

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